Billy wrote:
> In article <69vvm6F30efbnU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>> RF wrote:
>>> Billy wrote:
>>>> In article <69k4m9F3342h1U1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Billy wrote:
>>>>>> In article <69jb3hF336pe4U1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Billy wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
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>>>>>>>> "trigonometry1972@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 11:36 pm, "Juhana Harju" <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> RF wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am one of those low BP guys who can get by with
>>>>>>>>>>> salt and caffeine
>>>>>>>>>>> and I know some people who are in the same
>>>>>>>>>>> position but cannot use
>>>>>>>>>>> caffeine, so only salt is left to them - not a
>>>>>>>>>>> very healthy choice.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen on some herbal bottles that the
>>>>>>>>>>> product may raise the BP,
>>>>>>>>>>> so there must be some that do, but can they do it
>>>>>>>>>>> safely?
>>>>>>>>>> Rosemary and licorice might work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alt.folklore.herbs added.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Juhana
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ravintoblogini:http://ruohikolla.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>> I won't rate licorice as safe over the long term.
>>>>>>>>> Though it might make sense if one's goal is to
>>>>>>>>> flunk a draft physical.
>>>>>>>> http://www.holistic-online.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h204.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Safety:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caution : There is a small possibility of effecting electrolyte
>>>>>>>> balance with extended use of large doses of licorice. It has an
>>>>>>>> ACTH like effect causing retention of sodium thus raising BP. The
>>>>>>>> whole herb has constituents that counter this but it is best to
>>>>>>>> avoid Licorice if the patient has hypertension, kidney disease or
>>>>>>>> during pregnancy.
>>>>>>>> It may interfere with the calcium and potassium absorption. Do
not
>>>>>>>> use if you are suffering from osteo****osis, hypertension
>>>>>>>> (increases water around heart). Take with boiled milk.
>>>>>>>> No other information about the safety of this herb is available.
>>>>>>>> Use caution. Ayurvedic herbs are often taken in combination with
>>>>>>>> others to neutralize the toxicity one herb with the opposing
>>>>>>>> effect of other. Do not take except under the supervision of a
>>>>>>>> qualified professional.
>>>>>>> My thanks to everyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, licorice is struck off my list. Seems like the others are
>>>>>>> enough for a start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know of the relation****p between the size of the doses
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> elevation in BP for the list I gave (minus licorice)? Or is it
>>>>>>> individual-dependent?
>>>>>> Probably idiocentric, like allopathic medicine
>>>>> I guess I'll have to put a cuff on, start popping the pills or caps,
and
>>>>> write down the numbers every 15 mins.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just did some reading in the LEF Disease Prevention and Treatment
>>>>> manual that it takes 2 grams of calcium citrate to block 40% of the
iron
>>>>> in a meal. Seems like one would get calcium overload at that rate.
They
>>>>> also mentioned black tea to block the iron but no numbers were
given.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would appear that this work is still in its infancy.
>>>> You seem to live in a mirror universe, trying to raise your BP and
>>>> avoiding Fe+++ and Ca++. I take prunella to lower my BP and the cuff
>>>> is the only way I have of guesstimating it's effectiveness.
>>>> Fortunately, I grow my own, so once I have the dosage set, I don't
>>>> need to worry about it for a few months. You may want to look into
>>>> growing ginseng.
>>> Thanks Billy, I sure will.
>> According to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginseng
>> it takes 4 or 6 years to grow it.
>
> What? You goin' some place?
I need the high BP to go "some place." ;-)
> Some other plants for you to look at to raise blood pressure.
>
> Liquorice
> http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Glycyrrhiza+glabra
I had this in my first list but read some negative
things about it and dropped
it. The LEF Disease Prevention and Treatment
Expanded 4th Edition has lots
or good things to say about it, so I'm reconsidering.
> Horse Chestnut (Buckeye)
> http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Aesculus+hippocastanum
I already take that for leg veins. According to
one re****t I read, taking it
was the equivalent to using elastic stockings when
flying.
> or any of the other plants on
> http://www.pfaf.org/database/search_use.php?K%5B%5D=Vasoconstrictor
>
> with vasocostrictor being the key element in the search.
Will check it out. Thanks for the info.
> Bonne chance,
Merci!
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