Re: Hey Farml, Rob, David and All..

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:04:04 +1000, "FarmI" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

><Charlie> wrote in message
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:49:28 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>:-))  I post and have read a group called misc.rural for years. 
Sometimes 
>>>I
>>>have wondered if some of your fellow compatriots there are either
asleep 
>>>or
>>>just ignoring international news.
>>
>> Both of the above, with the added factor of a significant dumbing down,
>> by intent is my opinion, of the quality of education.
>
>Sadly yes.  It seems to be universal.  I did once read something written
by 
>a baseball palyer written in the 1920s and it was so erudite that I was 
>gobbsmacked!  Can't see any modern day s****tsman writing much more than a

>signature on a cheque (check).

  :-)  We manage, and live in, a group home and provide sup****t for
four people that have severe physical and mental disabilities.  Been at
it 16 years.  Early on we hired college students part-time for aide
work.  Surprised was not even the reaction we had to their lack of
writing skills and thinking abililites, for the most part.  It has
become even worse in other homes in our agency that still use
students...hard to believe they are even worse now.

>Our 'news', at
>> least what is available on cable and satellite appears to be simply
>> gov't propaganda.  Some of the print media is still trying to do whta
>> thye should.
>
>There are a few posters in that ng who do seem to keep up with the news
but 
>there are sadly so few of them.  they seem to have to make a special
effort 
>to read good papers online and they too have frequently lammented about
the 
>parlous state of the media.
>
>The same thing is slowly happening here right across the board and our TV
is 
>getting to be really woeful.  Popular shows are things like "Dancing with

>the Stars" and similar no brainer stuff.  I simply can't believe the
garbage 
>that people will waste their time watching.
>
>I know how saying this sounds, but you are seeing the
>> results of this great social engineering process, when you ask if
>> people are asleep or whatever.
>
>I've recently bought a book by one of Oz's soucla historians and it is
quite 
>fascinating. He says that here people went to sleep for a decade and just

>did home renovations.  I tend to agree with him.  thankfully our last 
>Federal election seemed to bring them out of their slumber.


>> My god, you should experience the state of the youth in this country,
>> in general.  It is sad.  Cripes, I sound like my father sounded!  ;-)
>
>Snap!  Pissed as newts on most weekends, and incapable of working at more

>than a snails pace. And if you ask then to actually 
>think...............!!!!!

Same problem here, though I have to lay alot of the blame off on the
fact that our rural economy has carked it and a lot of summer and
parttime work doesn't exist anymore. Physical work.  Now the kids that
want to work often wind up suffering in Maccas or the effing walmart,
treated as slaves and never developing pride in a job well done.  But,
that doesn't nealry explain it and I agree with you.  Too many years of
easy times perhaps and mum and dad doling out the goodies instead of
kids having to help work for their crust and for their extras. 

There used to be more work than a community of kids could keep up with
and we bucked hay or walked miles of bean rows or any other number of
jobs that needed doing on farms, and in town, jobs that were more
manual and physical.  *Then*, at day's end, we broke out the coldies
and got our wobbly boot on. Then we hauled, or were dragged, out early
in the morning for a repeat.  Flat out like a lizard drinking for all
day, and repeat.  School was a welcome relief sometimes.

>
>>>> Well now, that is right up my alley.  I shall continue my education!
I
>>>> have been an advocate of organic gardening for many years and have
made
>>>> myself somewhat unpopular in the other groups with some folks and
with
>>>> some family members in relation to organic and sustainable.
>>>
>>>I love manure.  My husband says I have a **** fetish and I admit that
if 
>>>it
>>>comes from the rear of a cow, horse, sheep, alpaca, rabbit or elephant,
I
>>>will collect it.
>>
>> Am I correct in assuming you age or compost it?
>
>Nope.  I don't bother.  My garden would be at least 2 acres and there is 
>always some spot where it can be put in whatever state it arrives in. 
>Sometimes it's come straight from the horses/cows/paccy's arse and so is 
>stinky, fresh and moist, sometimes it's sat in the bottom of the pile and
is 
>starting to compost.   How it looks, depends on where it goes.

Hmmmm, hmmmmm......I'm rethinking things and thinking this sounds like
less handling of the poo.  Thanks.  In this case heeding the advice of
someone who is full o' **** may be prudent.  ;-)


>As you know there was
>> a discussion of this a while back in rec.gardens.  I've always been of
>> that opinion, and only add fressh **** to the garden in the fall so
>> that it can do its thing over the winter.
>
>I top the veggie beds each Autumn and let it do it's stuff, but sometimes

>during the growing season I'll use a bag in the veggie garden that I've 
>filled with the more rotted stuff too.  When I collect my poops, I tend
to 
>fill each bag with manure of 'like' composition so have some discretion
on 
>how I can use them in the garden.

I see what your husband means.....you know your ****. ('merican slang
term)

Care
Charlie