Re: Hey Farml, Rob, David and All..

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:14:32 GMT, "0tterbot" <spl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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><Charlie> wrote in message 
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>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:04:04 +1000, "FarmI" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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><stuff>
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>er, far be it from me to interrupt two Grumpy Old People in full flight 
><g!>, but this is the common western refrain. everyone seems to think
their 
>own country is uniquely going to the dogs and all young people are
useless, 
>but i am continually having to point out that people have been going on 
>about this for (literally) millenia, everywhere.

Just you wait.  The day will come when you will inherit and be called
upon to put on "The Mantle of Creakiness, Grumpiness and Curmedgeonly
Behavior",  having been passed down from generation to generation, from
time immemorial.

>i actually happen to think australia's not going to the dogs (especially 
>after a change of govt!!!) & that most young people are perfectly all
right, 
>but who am i to try to reason with millennia of grumpy oldsters? :-) i
can't 
>speak for everywhere, though. mainly, i think it's ironic that adults run

>everything & adults make all the mistakes, & then want to turn around &
have 
>a go at young people for every imaginable problem, none of which they 
>created personally.

Please reread my First Response.

>
>having said that, i think capitalism's weaknesses & problems are really 
>starting to show now, though. there's nothing wrong with trade, buying & 
>selling (it's part of the human condition) but the way things are now is 
>just ludicrous. the peasants won't even rise up because the peasants are
the 
>worst of all!!

I'm not clear about your point that the peasants are the worst of all.

>i work with my hands to try to make an honest living in various
capacities, 
>& find it outrageous that the most literally useless people amongst us
are 
>making loads of money & have more influence. yet if everything went bad 
>overnight, it's people on this group (for example) who aren't going to be

>starving, isn't it? your average overpaid tech nerd or c.e.o. simply 
>wouldn't make it.

True, but what if said incompetents are our relatives, friends,
neighbors......that is a concern of mine, our responsibility to others
and to what degree.  We are dealing with 300 million as compared to
your twenty millions.  It could get really fugly and really serious
really fast.  I'm thinkin' Mad Max on a grand scale.


>speaking of poo, i read in one of my books recently that one should not 
>apply manure & lime at the same time, but rather manure first, lime a
month 
>later (or was it the other way around?) most books etc don't say this,
ime. 
>for example, i would apply blood & bone with lime, at the same time
(again, 
>laziness, ignorance, etc). b&b clearly isn't poo, but has some of the
same 
>roles. poo, as stated, i just put it on top (not mixed in - refer to 
>laziness, etc etc!) regardless of season, age, what else has been
applied, 
>etc.
>any thoughts?
>kylie 

I'm rethinking my poo thoughts.  I for sure opt for the "lazy" route.
What about pathogens?  Parasites and different virii that can be
harbored by poo emitters and passed on in their emissions.  Should one
have concerns about this?

Charlie