"Bill" <b2forewagner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> In article <er8e149ef6q6k0jf63tg03nfkuirhbgmko@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Charlie wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:31:48 +1000, "FarmI" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
be given>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ><Charlie> wrote in message
>> >> Sorry, I was also reading this article and became cornfused about
what
>> >> I was reading and where I was reading it! Not an uncommon
occurrence.
>> >>
>> >>
http://hartlandag.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-study-industrial-agriculture-cro
>> >> ps.html
>> >
>> >Interesting, but not surprising. I am trying to remember how some of
>> >the
>> >measurements for organic vs inorganic food is done. I seem to
remember
>> >brix and baume but that is all that comes to mind.
>> >
>> >And one has to wonder why kids these day seem to have so many diseases
>> >that
>> >were rare when I was a child. People of my age were relatively lucky
>> >because we were raised in an era when the production of food was
>> >organic, or
>> >only beginning on the inorganic track. Kids when I was young were
>> >considered to be rather defective if they had things like Asthma,
>> >psoriasis,
>> >allergies etc, because they were incredibly rare. Now they seem to be
>> >almost the norm rather than the exception. Something has sure changed
>> >since
>> >I was a kid.
>> >
>>
>> I wonder about the addition of high fructose corn syrup, and all sorts
>> of corn derivatives to our food. And eating what barely p***** as
>> "meat". I agree with your observations about kids when we were young
>> as compared to now, but all problems are overdetermined, too many
>> variables and too many combinations of variables perhaps.
>>
>> Something else that comes to mind that is different and that is causing
>> a bit of a ****storm, as it should, is all the vaccinating of our young
>> that is so effing required nowadays.
>>
>> Care
>> Charlie
>
> I'd add obsession with being Germ Free.
Yes. I'm sure you're old enough to remember Polio. It wasn't an issue in
the Western World until "germ free" became the vogue. I won't give
cupboard
space to anything that says on the label that it's antibacterial. And you
should hear our Doctors on the topic if you get them started :-))
> A small study below that says
>
> "Additional studies are needed to evaluate the effect of atopy and
> allergic diseases in glycemic control"
>
> ..............................
>
>
> Allergy Asthma Proc. 2008 Mar-Apr;29(2):166-70.
> Links
>
> Prevalence of atopy in children with type 1 diabetes mellitus, hepatitis
> B virus carriers, and healthy children: Role of T helper 1 (Th1)-type
> immune response.
>
> Cakir M, Akcay S, Karakas T, Gedik Y, Okten A, Orhan F.
> Faculty of Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, Karadeniz Technical
> University, Trabzon, Turkey.
>
> The prevalence of allergic diseases such as asthma, hay fever, and
> atopic dermatitis has increased over the past few decades, especially in
> developed countries. They are characterized by a chronic inflammatory
> reaction mediated by T helper 2 (Th2) cells. Two common chronic diseases
> of childhood-an autoimmune disease, type 1 diabetes mellitus (DM), and a
> chronic viral infection, hepatitis B virus (HBV) carriers-are associated
> with a Th1-dominant and Th1-insufficient cytokine profile, respectively.
> The purpose of this study was to analyze the frequency of allergic
> disease in patients with type 1 DM and, in HBV carriers, to evaluate the
> role of Th1-type immune response in atopy and allergic disease. The
> study included patients with type 1 DM (group I, n = 52), HBV carriers
> (group III, n = 47), and a healthy control group (group III, n = 209).
> Participants were screened for allergic disease and atopic
> sensitization. Symptoms of asthma, eczema, and atopy were found more
> commonly in HBV carrier children compared with those with DM and healthy
> controls. This study sup****ts the Th1/Th2 model. The prevalence of
> allergic disease and atopy is decreased in Th1-mediated autoimmune
> disease, type 1 DM, and, conversely, is increased in insufficient Th1
> response, chronic HBV carriers. Additional studies are needed to
> evaluate the effect of atopy and allergic diseases in glycemic control
> and long-term complications in patients with type 1 DM and the effect of
> atopy on progression of chronic HBV infection.
>
> PMID: 18430314 [PubMed - in process
>
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