FarmI wrote:
> "Bill" <b2forewagner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> In article <er8e149ef6q6k0jf63tg03nfkuirhbgmko@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Charlie
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:31:48 +1000, "FarmI" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
be given>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <Charlie> wrote in message
>>>>> Sorry, I was also reading this article and became cornfused
>>>>> about
>>>>> what I was reading and where I was reading it! Not an uncommon
>>>>> occurrence.
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://hartlandag.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-study-industrial-agriculture-cro
>>>>> ps.html
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, but not surprising. I am trying to remember how
>>>> some
>>>> of the
>>>> measurements for organic vs inorganic food is done. I seem to
>>>> remember brix and baume but that is all that comes to mind.
>>>>
>>>> And one has to wonder why kids these day seem to have so many
>>>> diseases that
>>>> were rare when I was a child. People of my age were relatively
>>>> lucky because we were raised in an era when the production of
>>>> food
>>>> was organic, or
>>>> only beginning on the inorganic track. Kids when I was young
>>>> were
>>>> considered to be rather defective if they had things like Asthma,
>>>> psoriasis,
>>>> allergies etc, because they were incredibly rare. Now they seem
>>>> to be almost the norm rather than the exception. Something has
>>>> sure changed since
>>>> I was a kid.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder about the addition of high fructose corn syrup, and all
>>> sorts of corn derivatives to our food. And eating what barely
>>> p***** as "meat". I agree with your observations about kids when
>>> we were young as compared to now, but all problems are
>>> overdetermined, too many variables and too many combinations of
>>> variables perhaps.
>>>
>>> Something else that comes to mind that is different and that is
>>> causing a bit of a ****storm, as it should, is all the vaccinating
>>> of our young that is so effing required nowadays.
>>>
>>> Care
>>> Charlie
>>
>> I'd add obsession with being Germ Free.
>
> Yes. I'm sure you're old enough to remember Polio. It wasn't an
> issue in
> the Western World until "germ free" became the vogue. I won't give
> cupboard
> space to anything that says on the label that it's antibacterial.
> And
> you
> should hear our Doctors on the topic if you get them started :-))
And no doubt the Black Plague was due to being "germ free" as was the
smallpox epidemic that nearly wiped out the native Americans.
>> A small study below that says
>>
>> "Additional studies are needed to evaluate the effect of atopy and
>> allergic diseases in glycemic control"
>>
>> ..............................
>>
>>
>> Allergy Asthma Proc. 2008 Mar-Apr;29(2):166-70.
>> Links
>>
>> Prevalence of atopy in children with type 1 diabetes mellitus,
>> hepatitis B virus carriers, and healthy children: Role of T helper
>> 1
>> (Th1)-type immune response.
>>
>> Cakir M, Akcay S, Karakas T, Gedik Y, Okten A, Orhan F.
>> Faculty of Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, Karadeniz Technical
>> University, Trabzon, Turkey.
>>
>> The prevalence of allergic diseases such as asthma, hay fever, and
>> atopic dermatitis has increased over the past few decades,
>> especially in developed countries. They are characterized by a
>> chronic inflammatory reaction mediated by T helper 2 (Th2) cells.
>> Two common chronic diseases of childhood-an autoimmune disease,
>> type
>> 1 diabetes mellitus (DM), and a chronic viral infection, hepatitis
>> B
>> virus (HBV) carriers-are associated with a Th1-dominant and
>> Th1-insufficient cytokine profile, respectively. The purpose of
>> this
>> study was to analyze the frequency of allergic disease in patients
>> with type 1 DM and, in HBV carriers, to evaluate the role of
>> Th1-type immune response in atopy and allergic disease. The study
>> included patients with type 1 DM (group I, n = 52), HBV carriers
>> (group III, n = 47), and a healthy control group (group III, n =
>> 209). Participants were screened for allergic disease and atopic
>> sensitization. Symptoms of asthma, eczema, and atopy were found
>> more
>> commonly in HBV carrier children compared with those with DM and
>> healthy controls. This study sup****ts the Th1/Th2 model. The
>> prevalence of allergic disease and atopy is decreased in
>> Th1-mediated autoimmune disease, type 1 DM, and, conversely, is
>> increased in insufficient Th1 response, chronic HBV carriers.
>> Additional studies are needed to evaluate the effect of atopy and
>> allergic diseases in glycemic control and long-term complications
>> in
>> patients with type 1 DM and the effect of atopy on progression of
>> chronic HBV infection.
>>
>> PMID: 18430314 [PubMed - in process
>>
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