Re: 100 Pounds of Food/Year From a 12 Square Foot Plot?

"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> FarmI wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> FarmI wrote:
>>>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>> FarmI wrote:

>>>>>> And one has to wonder why kids these day seem to have so many
>>>>>> diseases that
>>>>>> were rare when I was a child.  People of my age were relatively
>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>> because we were raised in an era when the production of food was
>>>>>> organic, or
>>>>>> only beginning on the inorganic track.  Kids when I was young
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> considered to be rather defective if they had things like
>>>>>> Asthma,
>>>>>> psoriasis,
>>>>>> allergies etc, because they were incredibly rare.  Now they seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> almost the norm rather than the exception.  Something has sure
>>>>>> changed since
>>>>>> I was a kid.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is "were the diseases rare or were they commonplace
>>>>> and
>>>>> the diagnosis of them rare"?
>>>>
>>>> They were rare.
>>>
>>> How do you know that?
>>
>> Because I have a good memory of my childhood and the children I grew
>> up
>> with,
>
> And you were capable of diagnosing medical conditions when you were a
> child?  And kept careful records of your diagnoses?

Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean that I can't do it.

I went to a very small rural school.  I went through 6 years in that
school 
and there were never any blow ins - all long time residents descended from

the people who first settled that area 100 years before.

I know that of those kids, 1 had polio, 1 got lead poisoning from lead
water
pipes, and 1 had an allergy to paspalum and got a rash each summer when
the
paspalum seeds came onto the plant (she'd dead now sadly).  Other than
that,
the only illnesses were things like Chicken pox, measles and mumps and
when
they came, we took turns in getting them.

If anyone in our community went to the doctor, it was a topic of
conversation as it had to be booked by using a manual exchange and our
Post 
Mistress was the world's biggest blabbermouth.  There were no secrets.
Even 
now I could tell you which adults were having *** with other peoples
spouses 
or who which men the women avoided and why.  I could still name the one
man 
in the village who was rumoured to be gay and why and how the one person
who 
was left a huge amount of money by his parents over 50 years before I was 
born lost it all.

People always assume that kids don't take notice, or don't know what is
going on, but we did.  We still gossip about the past and people now long
dead when we get together.  For 6 years I sat next to and was good friends
with the daughter of the woman who ran our phone exchange so I got all the
gossip from her, and if she didn't tell me, her cousin did.  For the next
6
years we had to travel together for 3 hours a day to get to high schools
so
the gossip still continued but our circle of contacts just got bigger.

It was a small closeknit community where all the people came from the one
area of Ulster (both Protestant and Catholic) and they cleared and settled
the land and then stayed there.  Even now as I research  in Ulster, I can
rattle the names off the top of my head that I knew as I grew up and that
I
know I willl see in the records of Ulster.

I knew what the diseases were and I still do, just don't ask me what I did
yesterday.

>> have always been interested in social history and pay attention
>> when
>> media re****ts an increasing incidence of such diseases.  Here are a
>> couple
>> of articles which supprt the information re****ted in our national
>> news:
>> http://www.nationalasthma.org.au/HTML/strategy/cam/cam005.asp
>> http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/28/255/
>>
>>>> They aren't now, but I also these days they might be
>>>> overdiagnosed.  Seems every second kid wanders round with an
>>>> Asthma
>>>> puffer.
>>>
>>> None of the kids in my neighborhood walk around with asthma
>>> puffers.
>>
>> How do you know that?
>
> Because none has the bulge in his pocket that would suggest an asthma
> puffer.

I'm sure you don't have any idea how ludicrous that sounds.  However, if
you
are paying such close attention to the lumps and bumps in the clothes of
the
children in your neigbourhood then I'm certain that you will shortly be
arrested.

>> 24% of the US population has it, 36% of the UK, 33% of Aus and it is
>> rising
>> at 0.5%/year.
>
> Well, considering that the US department of health and human services
> thinks that the incidence is 7.6 percent for adults and 9.4 percent
> for children.  The CDC thinks that the incidence of childhood asthma
> peaked in 1995 and had been steady or declining since.
>
> Asthma Australia says that the figures are 15 percent for adults and
> 11 percent for children in Australia--that's not "every second kid".

So you have a good knowledge of the children in my area too?  Your
fascination with children has gone iternational has it?

> So it appears that your statistics came out of your ass.

I don't own any donkeys.  We only ever had horses on this farm.

Speaking of horses, you certainly know how to make yourself sound like a
complete horse's arse.

> You bloody Australians who think that you know everything about the US
> would be laughable if you weren't so damned annoying.

You are sadly transparent and obvious.  Your real reason for posting is
that
you are upset that America and American's are not seen universally as
being
the great people some of them think they are.

That's fine by me.  I don't care if you chose to sound like a pedaphile. 
I
also don't care what you say about Australia or Australians.  I don't
suffer
from cultural cringe and I certainly don't care if you still do.

> What's amusing to me is how in your mostly rural country with a total
> population that wouldn't make up a good sized town in the US you have
> a higher incidence of asthma than in the US.  Perhaps your ancestors
> turned to crime because their asthma prevented them from holding down
> a job in England?

I'm highly amused too.  I find it amusing that you seem to be too obtuse
to
notice that you sound like a pedophile.  I also find it amusing that you
obviously don't know about the convict history of America.

I'm also amused at your ignorance of the name for the nation of origin of
the convicts.

I'm even amused by the fact that you know nothing about the geographic
distribution of the population of my country.  However I'm not surprised
by
it because you've proven repeatedly how ignorant you are in post after
post.