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Re: Any tips for a beginner?

by "0tterbot" <spl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM

"Trish Brown" <pmcbrown@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> We're just about to embark on our first-ever veggie patch and I wondered

> if anyone might have some tips for us? The reason we haven't started 
> before is that our block is boggy and spongy when the winter rains come,

> yet arid and awful in the heat of summer. It finally dawned on me that a

> raised (about 60cm or more) bed might be the answer! So, that's what
we'd 
> like to do: build up a well-raised bed and then see if we can reduce the

> grocery bill by growing some veggies.
>
> I've read lots of material about permaculture and no-dig gardens (they 
> come with a recipe for layering that seems pretty impossible - I mean, I

> don't know any sheep, so I won't be getting sheep-poo any time soon...)
My 
> thoughts were to lay something drainy ('aggregate'? chitter? etc?) and 
> then pile on some organic mix soil (purchased at Great Cost from a local

> bloke who sells it). We've got some recycled planks to make the walls of

> the garden and a few years' worth of rotted grass clippings for
mulching.
>
> Is there anything else I should know?

you'll work it out over the next 50 years <g!>

with veggie gardening (ime) you learn fast but you _will_ make loads of 
mistakes (some of which you will post to this group, & others keep firmly 
under your hat ;-). but mistakes are better for learning imho.

mostly it is straightforward & common sense. read lots of veggie books 
(there are millions - use the library & 2nd hand books too). one common 
theme among them is to keep feeding the soil.. always keeping the soil 
covered is another "rule" (but then there are people who remove mulch for 
winter or spring, bla bla, so no rule is cast in iron & you have to be 
prepared to learn & be surprised.)

What can I plant nowish (within,
> say, the next month)?

winter spinach, spring onions, some other types of winter onions
(actually, 
if you plant onions for sowing in winter into punnets now (today), they
can 
be something to put in shortly, when they are big enough), and several
types 
of peas i believe should be ok in newcastle to go in in winter. mizuna in 
punnets now! mizuna will NOT let you down & can be sown all year. and
check 
what else in your new veggie books ;-) well-progressed seedlings of
lettuce 
& stuff maybe, if you want to get seedlings at the nursery.
you probably can't plant much but you can take the op****tunity to plan for

spring. :-)

And is there anything mentioned above that sounds
> wrong?

not "wrong" but i'm thinking 60cm is a lot for a raised bed if you're
going 
to have a few of them! if you raise the bed less (i'm boggling at the 
expense you must be incurring with 60cm planned!) for drainage, you 
shouldn't need to allow for the entire length of the plants' roots, but 
rather, a decent amount at the top so some or most of the plants' roots
can 
still breathe when weather is wet. most veg have lots of near-to-surface 
roots to breathe with.  i'm not sure if i'd use aggregate underneath or
not; 
the plants will have roots going down into the original soil, too, & not 
sure what pebbles would achieve in terms of drainage when you think about
it 
that way.

I'd be *really* grateful for any feedback you can offer and hope
> this might prompt a bit of a discussion on the ways in which others have

> started their gardens.

any time i go a-gardening i just jump into it (none of your "planning" for

spring for me! ;-) so i guess that's how my garden started. :-)

how big will the garden be?
kylie
 




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Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-26 07:04:19 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-26 09:51:32 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-26 10:14:25 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-26 13:43:43 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-28 21:26:03 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-28 22:07:40 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-29 13:29:10 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"0tterbot" <  2008-05-26 11:40:30 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-27 00:42:35 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"0tterbot" <  2008-05-27 02:46:14 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
len gardener <gardenle  2008-05-26 18:57:13 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-28 21:23:00 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[E  2008-06-02 22:50:50 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-06-03 00:24:11 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[E  2008-06-05 23:30:57 

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