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Re: Any tips for a beginner?

by Trish Brown <pmcbrown@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 3, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Chookie wrote:

> Frankly, I'd just bung in what you have. I'm sure all that lucerne,
straw, 
> sheep poo etc is wonderful but it's just too expensive for a Sydney
gardener 
> to manage, especially considering there are cheaper/free materials that
will 
> work just as well without requiring further greenhouse gas emissions to
bring 
> in!

Geez, I can remember when lucerne hay cost a mere $5 a bale! I'm afraid 
if I had a source of cheap hay, I'd be handing it to my sister to feed 
her horses with! It seems like such a waste to chuck good clean hay onto 
the garden when there's gobs of grass clippings going begging.
> 
> If you are building the bed on grass, put lots of layers of newspaper at
the 
> bottom.  Right now is a good time to do this as rain is expected along
the 
> coast all week.  A few *years'* worth of rotted grass clippings is
probably a 
> beautiful friable soil by now, under the top 10cm.  Use the top bit for
the 
> mulch.  It's good to have manure in there as well. 

You're right! I dug down a few inches and sure enough it's all blackened 
and composted! I thought it'd be a heap of nice shaggy mulch, but I 
think the compost is going to be more useful! Hooray! ;-D

The centre of the heap is quite hot to the touch. Is that OK?

> And probably a good 
> sprinkle of lime.  You will see people say that dolomite is "better"
than 
> builder's lime; for our purposes that's nonsense.  We just need to raise
the 
> pH a bit, and if builder's lime is cheaper than the garden one, go for
it.  
> You'd need maybe four cups for your little bed.
> 
> I see you are starting with a 2mx1m bed.  That's good to start with if
you are 
> unsure of yourself, but I can guarantee that you'll have started a
second bed 
> within the next year unless you literally don't have any land to put it
on.  
> Growing vegies is addictive!

I'm already planning and plotting the shape of the extensions, but I 
want to get something in and growing before I commit any more energy etc 
to the project. AND, I've promised my son he can have a flower bed. (NB. 
My son is 32 and autistic and he *loves* gardening and flowers. What's 
easy to grow that makes good cut specimens?)

> 
> Oh, and have the long side of the bed facing north/south and the short
sides 
> east/west.  Northern sun warms your vegies; western sun cooks them.  Pop
a 
> trellis on the southern side of the bed and put in your peas (snow peas
or 
> sugar snap peas if you'd rather, but ordinary peas are easiest to grow).

I've got a bit of reo hanging on the southern fence and the ultimate 
plan is to do peas and beans. You put those in during spring, right?
> 
> You can see a nice free list here, updated monthly:  
> http://www.global-garden.com.au/plnttemp.htm

Hey, thanks for the info and especially the positive reinforcement! The 
bed is built and waiting for a rain-free day for us to fill it. I've 
weeded away all the grass and have plenty of fridge cartons and 
newspaper for the base. My sister has ploughed up three rooms of quarry 
tiles (!) and has promised to deliver them during this week, so that'll 
be my 'drainy' layer. After that, nice garden soil and some grass 
compost, after that, my purchased soil and the grassy mulch on top. I 
guess it'd be sensible to wait a week or two to see how things settle 
before planting?
> 
> Sydney, and, I imagine, Newcastle are temperate.
> 
Bloody frigid at the moment! Brrrr! ;->

-- 
Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia
 




 15 Posts in Topic:
Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-26 07:04:19 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-26 09:51:32 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-26 10:14:25 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-26 13:43:43 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-28 21:26:03 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"David Hare-Scott&qu  2008-05-28 22:07:40 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-29 13:29:10 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"0tterbot" <  2008-05-26 11:40:30 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-27 00:42:35 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
"0tterbot" <  2008-05-27 02:46:14 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
len gardener <gardenle  2008-05-26 18:57:13 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-05-28 21:23:00 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[E  2008-06-02 22:50:50 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Trish Brown <pmcbrown@  2008-06-03 00:24:11 
Re: Any tips for a beginner?
Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[E  2008-06-05 23:30:57 

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