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Re: Overcrowding the garden

by Charlie May 11, 2008 at 01:07 PM

On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:29:10 -0700, Billy <wildbilly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>In article <_aadnXd3pukgoLvVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "Him" <hfh1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Hi group.  NJ zone 6 here.  For the past several years I have gotten
greedy
>> and end up planting my plants way too close together.  The peppers in
>> particular don't like this, end up tall with small peppers if any.  The
>> tomato patch was so crowded they could not get picked and spoiled.
>> 
>> This year I have vowed to reform.  Now, how crowded is safe?  I don't
have a
>> lot to work with.  I have two 10 by 12 plots seperated by a 3 ft wooden
>> walkway.
>> 
>> I plan to dedicate one entire side to tomatoes.  How many and what
>> configuration would you suggest?  Any ideas for the peppers on the
other
>> plot plus other stuff like squash, peas, greens?
>> 
>> Thanks for your ideas.
>
>Follow recommended spacing for peppers but remember, pepper plants like 
>to hold hands (leaves of mature plants should just touch). This will 
>also block sunlight to the ground, discouraging weeds. Investigate 
>companion planting and you don't need to grow in rows, beds are more
>effective for preventing weeds.

Every year, my garden is looking more hodge-podgey, stuff growing kinda
wherever I can stick something in.  I'd still like to have the space
somewhere to try Bill's broadcast method.  That sounds way easy.

>I'll second Charlie's recommendation of John Jeavon's "How to Grow More 
>Vegetables Than You Ever Thought Possible On Less Land Than You Can 
>Imagine".

The *only* problem I have with the biointensive method, as espoused by
Jeavons and others, is the double diggy thingie.  That is just too
damned much work.  I think doing the lasagna thing and loosening the
soil in reverse, by building *up* is much easier, though it will take a
bit longer.  Len, in Oz, has a great idea for doing this. Check this
out, if you haven't.

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/straw_bale_garden.htm

>If you don't want to make new paths in your garden right away (4' wide 
>plots mean that you only have to reach 2' to weed or harvest), you might 
>use 2'X 2' stepping stones, to avoid compacting the gardens soil.

Good idea.

>At recommended spacing for caged tomatoes, you could potentially grow
>30 tomato plants. Do you need that many? Are you canning? A couple of 
>cherry tomato plants would keep you in salad and a half dozen others for 
>sandwiches.
>
>Save some space to try something different.
>
>Have fun:-)

Charlie
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
Overcrowding the garden
"Him" <hfh1@  2008-05-10 20:26:00 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Charlie   2008-05-10 20:34:45 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
gonzo <sfallen2002@[EM  2008-05-11 08:42:00 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Billy <wildbilly@[EMAI  2008-05-11 10:29:10 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Charlie   2008-05-11 13:07:01 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Billy <wildbilly@[EMAI  2008-05-11 15:26:54 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Persephone   2008-05-11 23:51:49 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Charlie   2008-05-12 11:22:50 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Billy <wildbilly@[EMAI  2008-05-12 11:38:55 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Charlie   2008-05-12 13:51:25 
Re: Overcrowding the garden
Billy <wildbilly@[EMAI  2008-05-12 14:11:55 

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