Re: Global warming and your garden

Billy <wildbilly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> In article <Xns9AA55DC1BF019enigmaempirenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  enigma <enigma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> MajorOz <MajorOz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> news:0a02b3c2-c39c-40a3-8177-6f864071e14f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> egr oups.com: 
>> 
>> > Kinda shoots the argument that paying teachers more
>> > would result in better education.
>> 
>>  it might. if the choice is between teaching, with a
>>  salery of 
>> $40k/year (knowing that you have to supply your own
>> classroom with pencils, paper, chalk, hankies, hand
>> cleaner, supplemental reading books etc *and* pay off that
>> student loan for the required Master's degree) and a
>> private sector job that pays $75K+ per year, which would
>> you choose? 
>> 
>> > Actually, the reason private / religious schools produce
>> > better products is that they are allowed to exact
>> > discipline. 
>> 
>>  well, more or less. a private or religious school can
>>  throw 
>> out any student that they choose, so they can pick only 
>> willing, non-disabled students. public schools can't do
>> that, and frequently public school teachers have kids with
>> learning disabilities, ESL or numerous other issues that
>> take what little teaching time they have after the
>> bureaucratic paperwork... it's a lose/lose game.
>> 
>> lee <my dad thought i should be a teacher. ew!>
> 
> Ew? There is a satisfaction in teaching, at least there is
> until the administration beats it out of you, in seeing a
> student "get it", to read the implications, not just the
> explicit text. Besides providing for the moment, what could
> be more im****tant than preparing for the future?

ew, because i could not be a public school teacher. i could 
not teach only to the test. i could not restrain my enthusiasm 
for knowledge. i could not simply turn out good little cogs... 
and that is strongly frowned upon by the administration.
 i did have a few good teachers (i can count them on one hand 
with fingers left over). they didn't last long... not because 
they couldn't teach, but because they couldn't, or wouldn't, 
play the politics game.
 i know that i wouldn't kiss ass, so going into teaching would 
have been a bad thing for everyone (including the students, 
because once you have a teacher that opens your eyes to the 
possibilities of what learning *could* be, & then that teacher 
is gone, well, then the same old grind is even more onerous).
 what baffles me is there are public school grade school 
teachers that completely avoid teaching certain subjects 
simply because they dislike or don't understand it, including 
math. how can that be allowed to occur?
lee
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