I have several Dortmund I grew freestanding until I could get around to
building something on which they could climb. They can get quite large,
so
they would require regular pruning if you want them to stay under control.
I bet they would to fine as a pillar; that way you could let them climb a
bit and still keep them under control. Dortmund do well with about 5-6
hours of sun, and it you don't want the plant to get too large, more light
is not of great advantage.
You can always use Help Me Fine http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php
to
hunt down some more options.
As far as soil, if you amend your clay I'll bet they'll do just fine.
Cheers
Jeff, Southeast Michigan, USA, Zone 5
<Nicholls.Mark@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I don't know much about roses in general, but I'm thinking of planting
> one or two.
>
> My garden isn't that huge, so I'm probably looking for something that
> tall (> 6ft, < 15ft) but doesn't take up too much space, it doesn't
> need to be too neat and tidy, but at the same time like a moyesii
> would be too wild.....I like single flowers (if thats the correct
> term), I'm not too fussed about scent...I quite like things like
> 'dortmund', 'parkdirektor riggers', 'altissisimo', but am aware that
> they are climbers.....can they be grown as free standing
> shrubs?.....can anyone recommend any of these in particular or
> anything else?
>
> My soil is pretty heavy clay, midlands UK, so it needs to be
> reasonably hardy, it would probably be in fullish sun.
>


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