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Re: Fertilizer - Synthetic vs. Natural

by "Jeffrey L. Kline" <Klinej@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 16, 2008 at 06:41 AM

I've used Bayer products and find them to be of high quality.  I don't use 
the systemic system, just 'cause I think topical application of insect and

fungus/black spot control to be more effective.

There are a ton of articles on line providing the pro's and con's for both

synthetic (generally petroleum based) and organic fertilizers, including 
American Rose Society.

With 3000 square feet of garden, I find granulated fertilizer an real 
benefit.  Its easy to apply, consistent in its composition, and cost 
effective.

I think the main issues of synthetics from my experience is the salt 
build-up in the soil (and run-off in the water, if you're not careful), as

well as increasing pH.  Both have a tendency to decrease the plant's
ability 
to take up the nurturance in the soil.  (Martin and Gail, in reference to 
your "roses are busting out all over" thread, this is why, so I'm told,
that 
they recommend you replace soil when placing a new rose in an old rose 
site.)

There are several products that can reduce salt buildup, including gypsum.

It has the additional benefit of clumping clay, so you get better root 
aeration.  In addition, I monitor my soil's pH and adjust it to 6 to 6.5.

I also use horse manure based compose, but I find it is not very high in 
nitrogen.  The wood chips used in stalls these days are very high in
carbon, 
which actually leaches nitrogen out of the soil, so I add nitrogen to the 
pile while I'm composting it.

And that's my main concern with most "natural" fertilizers.  Its really
hard 
to know how much of what is in it, and it varies from batch to batch.  As
a 
result, you can never be sure you're providing all of the substrates the 
plant requires.  (Well, I guess if your plants are big, green, healthy,
and 
full of blooms, you must be doing something right.)  Also, if you have a
big 
area, it can get quite costly.

Hope this helps

Jeff, Southeast Michigan, Zone 5


<greatyetiofthenorth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:27cee6fe-8f2c-437d-8f23-a79ad7673ae1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Quick question for the group - Fertilizer.  Apart from not being
> "green", as is the current fad, are there any long term detrimental
> effects that the the modern day synthetic fertilizers may cause to
> rose bushes?  I am specifically asking about the Bayer Systemic 2-in-1
> fertilizer that protects from bug damage etc.
>
> The reason I bring this up is I was recently told by a mail-order rose
> company that I am in effect reducing the life expectancy of the roses
> using that type of fertilizer.  I am not sure if I necessarily believe
> that since the product is fairly recent.  Also, the concept of green
> gardening is something I practice for my vegetables since I will
> ingest them, but since the roses are just for looking good, I am less
> concerned about the environmentalist pressures that are ever present.
>
> Thoughts?  Opinions?
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
Fertilizer - Synthetic vs. Natural
"greatyetiofthenorth  2008-04-15 12:35:46 
Re: Fertilizer - Synthetic vs. Natural
"Jeffrey L. Kline&qu  2008-04-16 06:41:36 
Re: Fertilizer - Synthetic vs. Natural
"Gail Futoran"   2008-04-18 18:31:24 

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