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zxcvbob <zxcvbob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Billy wrote:
> > In article <31303030393032394828437D09@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> The message <Xns9A9C4E91AF46enigmaempirenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> from enigma <enigma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> contains these words:
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> >>> Dav <croteau.david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:30515023-37c8-
> >>> 445a-bbe2-d07b2eacf46b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Has anyone been useing humanure on there vegable gardens?
> >>> the Chinese...
> >> my grandad (our only lav was a bucket, invariably emptied into
> >> trenches in the veg garden.He did this for 50 years with no
problems.)
> >>
> >> lots of Permaculturists
> >>
> >>> how hot can you get your manure pile? humans are omnivores,
> >>> which means we pass pathogens in our manure.
> >> Duh, so do herbivores and even vegans! It's not diet that causes
> >> pathodens in ****.
> >>
> >> if you can't
> >>> sterilize it, you don't want it on your veggies.
> >> There are safe ways to use it. Not on the surface around raw salad
> >> crops, obviously; but
> >> composted through a compost toilet, or dumped raw in trenches under
> >> beans, corn, or other above-ground crops, it's perfectly safe. I'm
still
> >> alive as proof.
> >>
> >> Janet.
> >
> > It is safest if used with acidic crop like citrus or tomatoes. Not
> > recommended for aubergines or corn.
>
>
> That makes no sense at all, but I'm willing to listen if you 'explain
> it. (I think corn is an ideal crop to fertilize the good old fa****oned
> Chinese way.)
>
> Bob
Good catch Bob I was worried about human pathogens becoming systemic in
the plant (which lower pH crops could resist), but according to the
experts, that is not a problem but proximity to the ground may be.
http://cahe.nmsu.edu/CES/yard/2000/060300.html
Garden Over Septic Leach Field
Question:
I have an open area over my septic leach field and want to plant a
garden or orchard in that area. Is that a good idea?
Answer:
In my opinion, it is not a good idea to plant either a garden
(vegetables) or an orchard over the septic leach field. Although plants
will not absorb human disease organisms through their roots, it is
possible that disease organisms would be on the surface of the
vegetables (roots, leaves, or fruit) and could cause disease.
Although there is little chance that the disease organisms would be on
the surface of tree fruits, the problem with an orchard over the septic
field is that of the tree roots clogging th drain lines. It is best to
avoid planting trees too close to the leach field since their roots
extend a long distance from the trunk, even if the trees are not
directly over the leach field.
Perhaps it would be best to plant either a lawn or an ornamental garden
of annuals and other flowers which do not have a deep root system over
the leach field. This would preclude the use of edible plants or plants
with a deep root system which could cause problems.
--
Bush Behind Bars
Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
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