Re: Global warming and your garden

Charlie wrote:

> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:41:29 -0700, Persephone
> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:10:02 -0700,
>>"aluckyguess" <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"tstovall" <twstovall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>>>message news:g0kmdo02q6t@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> yep, coolest darkest wet spring.  No global
>>>> warming here this year, but then that is why
>>>> the name was changed to climate change from
>>>> global warming. Nothing like marketing. ~tom
>>>We wont know anything for another 1000 years,
>>>then there will be to many people.
>>>It will all work itself out.
>>>
>>1000 years!  You gotta be kidding! 
>>Manifestations all over the world
>>as we speak.  The tipping point is less than a
>>decade away.
>>
>>Persephone
> 
> Are you sure we haven't already reached the
> tipping point?
> 
> Looked at the stars lately?  Or the color of the
> sky on a "clear" day?
> They are dimmer.  Global dimming.  Read about
> it.

The dimmer, dimming skies are not the result of
"warming" they are the result of particulates
which if anything could cause cooling.  

Yes, a lot of the particulates are the result of
burning fossil fuels, in particular coal fired
plants.  A LOT of this is from CHINA who is
increasing coal burning power plants at a very
rapid pace and is also polluting the world's
oceans.

IMHO we should be a LOT more concerned about the
IMMEDIATE HEALTH effects from these carcinogens
and respiratory damaging agents than the "global
warming hypothesis" which can not be
differentiated between natural cycles and the
extent to which man is contributing.

In other words, we need to do some triage and
solve the most im****tant issue first,  If we do
this, the CO2 issue will also be solved.

The plant world is a lot more sensitive to things
like acid rain, heavy metal poisoning from
contaminated air and water than the CO2 which it
needs to grow and make oxygen.


> 
> No matter, nothing, abso****inglutely nothing,
> will be done in time to
> mitigate.  Yet we will fight on.
> 
> Charlie