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Bayer systemics

by "symplastless" <symplastless@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 09:17 PM

Many organisms eat the leaves, fruit and nuts of trees.  When using
systemic 
by Bayer, who claim their products are plant food as well, the good guys
get 
a dose as well as the so-called, yet to be proven, bad guys.  I believe in

predisposition.  When energy reserves are low or lacking secondary
organisms 
will move in.  Product pushers tend to have the secondaries as the target.

Its like hunting and aiming at shadows.  Its very upsetting to hear that 
they have teamed up with Arbor Day Foundation.  Their add claiming they
can 
sell you products that feed trees mentions their connection with Arbor
Day. 
I did not know Arbor Day teamed up with product pushers.

BTW for the record.  Food is a substance that provides and energy source, 
mostly.  Nutrient is a
substance that provides an energy source, elements, and other substances
essential for life, in types and amounts that can provide a healthy life.
Fertilizer is a substance that provides elements, as salts mostly, or in
bonded forms, that require microorganisms to alter to forms that can be
absorbed by plants.  Trees do not get food from the soil.  They
manufacture
their own food.  Why lie to people and mislead them?  You get your joys
that
way?  Trees cannot absorb a nutrient or food.  They do absorb essential
elements.  There are 17 essential elements - 14 From The Soil.  Carbon,
Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, Calcium, Sulfur,
Magnesium, Manganese, Iron, Copper, Boron, Molybdenum, Chlorine, Zinc,
Nickel [Sodium, Cobalt, Selinium?].  They are elements.  Elements are
single
atoms or groups of atoms of similar type.  They are not food or are they
nutrients.    A list of elements can be found here: 
http://www.webelements.com/

You do not have to agree with my definitions but I will be understood.  I
do 
not mind criticism as much as I do being misunderstood.  So you will find
I 
often resort to defining by terms.  Consider poor Joe who liked alcohol. 
Drank methanol rather than ethanol. He then quickly learned, as his brain 
got burned. That words are im****tant after all.


I suggest these articles for a better understanding of tree chemistry.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/****go/CHEM.html

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/****go/RHIZO.html


-- 
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us 
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that 
will give them understanding.
 




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Bayer systemics
"symplastless"   2008-05-17 21:17:49 
Re: Bayer systemics
Father Haskell <father  2008-05-17 22:26:28 
Re: Bayer systemics
"symplastless"   2008-05-19 22:01:47 

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