Re: Global warming and your garden

In article 
<wildbilly-5158CC.14502418052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Billy <wildbilly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> In article <ou6dnXVd0vCtprLVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  "Paul E. Lehmann" <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > Billy wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <muFXj.17$aq.1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > "aluckyguess" <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> From what I read lately we should be more
> > >> worried about global cooling.
> > > 
> > > You need to improve your reading material. What
> > > does disappearing ice sheets in Greenland and
> > > Antarctica (not to mention the attendant 200'
> > > rise in ocean levels) suggest to you? Heating or
> > > cooling? Hmmm?
> > 
> > What did it mean during the time of Eric the Red
> > and the other Viking explorers.  It ain't the
> > first time it has happened.
> 
> It wasn't the industrial burning of fossil fuel that 
> lead Eric and his crew out to Greenland. And with Eric and his crew in 
> mind, it can be argued that if they had changed some of their old habits

> and adopted some of the Inuits strategies for staying
> alive, instead of the stiff-necked insistence on being good Norwegians,
> they probably would have survived.
> 
> Read "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared 
> Diamond, for a fascinating account of Eric's Norse colony.
>
http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Societies-Choose-Fail-Succeed/dp/014303655
> 6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211145979&sr=1-1
> 
> The great preponderance of scientists find "Global Warming" credible. It

> isn't a gamble we can afford to lose.
> 
> The arguments against "Global Warming" are the same arguments that 
> were used against the dangers of cigarettes, acid rain, and 
> ozone depletion (chloroflurohydrocarbons: CFCs), i.e. you can't 
> prove it using the scientific method of repeatable results, yet we
> now know that cigarettes are a health hazard for the smoker and 
> anyone around the smoker, and that acid rain, and the diminished 
> ozone layer (protects us from ultraviolet radiation) are man made
> events.
> 
> Better people than I have tried to present the case for "Global 
> Warming". Some people, usually people who don't want to stop 
> polluting, or make money from fossil fuels, don't want to believe 
> it, and will sup****t voices against it.
> 
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> 
> January 3, 2007
> 
> Scientists' Re****t Do***ents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation 
> Campaign on Global Warming Science
> Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create 
> Confusion
> 
> WA****NGTON, DC, Jan. 3-A new re****t from the Union of Concerned 
> Scientists offers the most comprehensive do***entation to date of how 
> ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry's disinformation tactics, as

> well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the 
> scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the 
> issue. According to the re****t, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 
> million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations 
> that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.
> 
> "ExxonMobil has manufactured uncertainty about the human causes of 
> global warming just as tobacco companies denied their product caused 
> lung cancer," said Alden Meyer, the Union of Concerned Scientists' 
> Director of Strategy & Policy. "A modest but effective investment has 
> allowed the oil giant to fuel doubt about global warming to delay 
> government action just as Big Tobacco did for over 40 years."
> 
>
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco
> .html
> 
> We can't wait 40 years. We should have started in the last century.
> 
> Please note the use of citations to sup****t an argument.

 Drove a bit crazy for a while till I could remember "Arctic Dreams".
No need to read the book but I think you would love it.

 Sort of thinking that scientists become  lobbyist in this weird media 
image suggesting world.

The reviews of Arctic Dreams will entice but readers seem to be cast 
aside yet  yet yet hope. Incoherent ...perhaps calling for a chant.

<http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Dreams-Barry-Lopez/dp/0375727485>

 Notice Lopez has a  Indian children's book too.


Bill

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