I thought I would post it here to see if any of the gardeners have either the seedlings or seeds or hint from where to get it locally. Here is what a bottle gourd looks liek: http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/21/68/23236821.jpg and here is bitter gourd: http://www.lionseeds.com/wp-content/BG4710_02.jpg You can reach me at: bluebee_skyREMOVEME@[EMAIL PROTECTED]