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Re: Freezing broad beans in the pod

by nmm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Maclaren) Jul 10, 2008 at 09:35 AM

In article <g54i0e$9mu$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Dan Smithers <dan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
|> gavin wrote:
|>
|> >> Stick to your 'directly'.  Yeast can also use starch, but the
mechanism
|> >> involves quite a lot more complexity in converting it to sugar.
|> > 
|> > That depends on the strain of yeast. Years ago one of the home
winemaking 
|> > supply producers used to market a yeast which would ferment a
pro****tion of 
|> > starch and so was great for rice wine and similar. 
|> 
|> The usual technique with starch is to use an enzyme to break it down
|> into sugars before fermentation. It's called brewing and is what is
done
|> for beer.

Yes, but that is a gross over-simplification; look up the acid hydrolysis
of starch for another mechanism, which is also one of the ones used by
yeast.

|> The problem with starches is that they take a _really_ long time to
|> ferment. I also seem to remember that they are insoluble in water and
|> tend to settle out.

That is misleading.  It is the conversion that takes the time.  In
brewing, it is hastened and takes only an hour or so; acid hydrolysis
is typically slower at the near-neutral pH in most fermentations.

Yes, they are insoluble.  That is essentially the only difference
between a sugar and a starch.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
 




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Freezing broad beans in the pod
Broadback <wen@[EMAIL   2008-07-06 12:58:59 
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nmm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-06 12:03:34 
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Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.h  2008-07-06 14:34:53 
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Ed <ex@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-06 15:17:21 
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Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.h  2008-07-06 17:18:58 
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"gavin" <the  2008-07-06 23:36:48 
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Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.h  2008-07-07 11:40:39 
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"gavin" <the  2008-07-07 12:53:04 
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nmm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-07 13:41:29 
Re: Freezing broad beans in the pod
"gavin" <the  2008-07-07 18:46:38 
Re: Freezing broad beans in the pod
Dan Smithers <dan@[EMA  2008-07-10 09:41:50 
Re: Freezing broad beans in the pod
nmm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-10 09:35:12 
Re: Freezing broad beans in the pod
Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.h  2008-07-10 17:06:44 
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nmm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-10 16:58:05 

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